but it's a terrible term to use. the president shouldn't use it. none of his policy makers should use it. it sounds foolish actually. >> well, that's why i'm not going to use it anymore, gary. i'm going to stay away from it completely. >> yeah. >> there's a new threat that we face. a different kind of undetectable bomb. i know you've talked about it, you've written about it extensively. explain to us what's the next thing that could make all the things we're doing currently at tsa worthless? >> well, of course, you've got bomb makers in yemen who actually constructed -- one particular bomb maker who constructed a device, put it inside the body cavity of an individual and sent him in to assassinate the chief of counterterrorism, bin nayev in saudi arabia. there's a lot of engineering going on on the other side, on the side of the terrorists, that are -- they understand that what we're doing in our screening procedures, they understand our technical abilities, and they're trying to defeat them. so we're going to have to continue to be smart about the